At the moment on Decoder, we’re speaking concerning the main antitrust lawsuit towards Dwell Nation, and what it would imply for antitrust and competitors regulation normally now that the Justice Division beneath Trump has determined to settle its a part of the case. That’s whilst many states — together with New York, California, and Texas — keep on the battle.
To interrupt all of it down, I’m joined by Verge senior coverage reporter Lauren Feiner. Lauren is our resident courtroom knowledgeable, by which I imply she’s been within the courtroom herself and chronicling this trial from the start.
You is likely to be unfamiliar with the identify Dwell Nation, however you’ve virtually actually encountered certainly one of its many, many subsidiaries — probably the most notorious of those is named Ticketmaster. Longtime Decoder listeners would possibly recall an episode we did on Ticketmaster again in 2023, within the wake of the Taylor Swift Eras Tour fiasco. That was when Ticketmaster’s web site crashed in the course of the first main rush for Eras Tour tickets. It was such a scandal, and Swifties are so politically highly effective, that Dwell Nation was then dragged in entrance of Congress after widespread backlash spilled over into the mainstream.

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In 2024, the Division of Justice launched an antitrust lawsuit towards the corporate, looking for to interrupt it up — to separate Ticketmaster off from Dwell Nation to attempt to fight predatory practices and growing ticket charges.
This appeared like an actual slam dunk case towards Dwell Nation, no matter political affiliation — no person likes Ticketmaster, and breaking apart the corporate would rating political factors for whoever lastly pulled the set off. It was additionally purported to be an indication of robust bipartisan antitrust assist.
The lawsuit was filed beneath the Biden administration. So though Trump has since changed Biden’s antitrust leaders, there was good motive to imagine the brand new individuals in cost, particularly DOJ antitrust chief Gail Slater, would sustain the stress, particularly towards tech corporations. You would possibly keep in mind that JD Vance used to go round calling himself a fan of former FTC chief Lina Khan and calling for the breakup of Google.
However nothing concerning the second Trump admin is predictable. In early February, Gail Slater was pushed out. After which only one week into the Dwell Nation trial, a part of that lawsuit got here to a sudden and surprising finish. The DOJ settled its portion of the case, extracting what many within the broader reside occasion and music industries see as weak concessions. This has stirred up accusations of outright corruption on behalf of Trump himself, who reportedly intervened within the case on to demand a speedy settlement.
However the lawsuit isn’t over but. As a result of the case towards Dwell Nation additionally included dozens of US states and districts, there’s nonetheless a majority of state attorneys basic who’ve refused to surrender the battle. So Dwell Nation stays in courtroom, combating off accusations that it operates an unlawful monopoly within the ticket enterprise, which is illegally tied to its promotions enterprise… which is illegally tied to its venues enterprise.
However the DOJ settlement raises all types of difficult questions on the place antitrust coverage stands within the US at this time, particularly with regard to ongoing instances towards Large Tech corporations like Apple and Amazon.
Lauren has been monitoring all of those developments intimately — the trial, the settlement, and now the states persevering with the battle — so let’s get into it.
If you happen to’d prefer to learn extra about what we mentioned on this episode, try these hyperlinks:
- States’ anti-monopoly case towards Dwell Nation continues Monday | The Verge
- The Dwell Nation trial restarts with a ‘velvet hammer’ | The Verge
- Dwell Nation settles authorities antitrust swimsuit — and dodges a breakup | The Verge
- The Dwell Nation settlement has trade insiders baffled | The Verge
- Hearken to the Dwell Nation CEO’s alleged threats to a live performance venue | The Verge
- The threats and bare-knuckle ways of MAGA’s prime antitrust fixer | The Wall Road Journal
- The Trump admin simply gave Dwell Nation the present of a lifetime | The New York Occasions
- How Dwell Nation allegedly terrorized the live performance trade | The Verge
- The US authorities is attempting to interrupt up Dwell Nation-Ticketmaster | The Verge (2024)
- Taylor Swift vs. Ronald Reagan: the Ticketmaster story | Decoder (2023)
























